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EQ before IQ Except After Death. Sunday February 23, 2014

"A wise man does not use knowledge (IQ) to select his direction, but will on occasions use it to guide him on that path."

Do you remember learning the rule 'I before E except after C'?

My play on that and resulting life rule is - EQ (heart) before IQ (head) except after death - i.e. E before I except after D.

Since it was created in 1902 the IQ test has dominated our lives, jobs and careers.

All of us will have been indoctrinated into this lifestyle, with at least 11 (up to 18) years of Newtonian cognitive 'schooling'.

It is no surprise then, that many of us who are not cognitively gifted (an ability to memorise facts and solve puzzles) often feel left out, if not left behind in society.

In Scotland here, I believe that over half 14 years olds will have been told they are failures by the very system which is meant to educate them. That system actually 'schools' (not educates) us and in many cases, reduces self esteem and self respect.

Correspondingly, Scotland has the highest knife crime, highest prison population per capita and highest teenage pregnancy levels in Europe - correlation?

So while each of us travels our own 'Road Less Travelled' - unfortunately for most, it is actually a 'Road Most Travelled' and socialises us into a lifestyle taking us down a very unfortunate path, mostly measured by our 'usefulness' to work and not society.

The clever person (IQ) will easily fit into this world often of ego and selfish greed, as they succeed in the key measurement of governments - IQ.

The wise person however, will find their own path. It is a path that also enhances the life of those around them. A path that enables them to believe in themselves and thus be strong enough inside, to be of service to others in a way that 'others' require - wise and not clever.

So, as we see from the starting quote, a wise person walks a different line and on occasions rightly uses IQ to assist that journey.

Life is predominately an internal journey with an external outcome.

One which serves and supports others, emanating from an ability to be compassionate; to see life from another perspective; to treat others as they want to be treated and not to hang onto what feels safe and 'right' for you.

So as I've said before 'compass before clock', heart before head, morals before money.

Which do you choose to move towards today? To change the world (even if it is your own household) you first have to change yourself.

Give yourself a score out of 10 for changing yourself today - with 10 being high and share this with your closest friend who can help and support you on your way.

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Anonymous Sun, Feb 23rd 2014 @ 7:14am

Hi Les,

I just have to take issue with some of the assumptions in your post today.

I am guessing we all heard about Boris Johnson’s comments on IQ and (bizarrely) good and bad cornflakes, and hopefully we all read about his complete inability to pass a basic IQ test shortly afterwards. Class is the greatest predictor of success in our society, and being born into one place rather than another has no connection to intelligence. Neither does it have any connection to ethics or merit.

I think it’s quite dangerous to assume that those who feel ‘left out’ or ‘left behind’ by society are ‘not cognitively gifted’ for the very same reasons that you go on to discuss: the effect on self-esteem, self-respect and the sense of somehow being a failure.

In the same way that everyone has a good book inside them, waiting to be written. Given the right support, encouragement and opportunity, everyone has the ability to gain a degree, and to contribute to whatever area of science or the arts they feel inspired by.

You also say:

The clever person (IQ) will easily fit into this world often of ego and selfish greed, as they succeed in the key measurement of governments - IQ.

This is completely incorrect, since after class, success in this society is more likely to be dependent on certain psychosocial traits. To touch upon mental illness for a moment, any kind of advantage that might be conferred by high IQ is no doubt easily cancelled out by (a) becoming manic, depressed or psychotic, and then later (b) having to take strong medications to control those symptoms.

I agree with the main gist of your post; that a life lived with compassion for others is the more worthwhile and rewarding one. I would add to that, however, that while age, experience and knowledge in others are worthy of our respect, mere status should never inspire deference. You are as worthy as anyone else, regardless of fame, fortune or accident of birth.

As for IQ and intelligence: there are very gifted individuals in all walks of life. There are also very intellectually challenged ones, regardless of how often they enjoy cornflakes.


Anonymous Sun, Feb 23rd 2014 @ 8:20am

Pip's post is eloquent, I concur with his/her points. I have a high IQ, I've found a fast brain both a blessing and a curse; a cause of fun and misery. EQ is as important as intelligence quotient, no doubt about it. Please don't presuppose that people with high IQs easily fit into this world often of ego and selfish greed - it's a fallacious assumption, linking IQ with morality, or lack of it.

curious212000 Sun, Feb 23rd 2014 @ 8:44am

Thank you

Anonymous Sun, Feb 23rd 2014 @ 11:12am

I too found this blog simplistic and preachy- there are so many aspects of life that can influence one - and there are so many things that can happen which one has to deal with - I have a high intelligence - and tried to be compassionate and kind in my youth in a situation which I should not have had to deal with on my own- in addition to trying to manage a career which was poleaxed by the economic situation. I am now entirely on my own without family and one loyal friend. I wish I had been more selfish - I no longer want to be a saint!

Anonymous Sun, Feb 23rd 2014 @ 11:19am

I can see Pip's point, but I focused more on the paragraph regarding the school system and totally concur with what Les states regarding IQ dominating EQ. I think this is now turning around and, heads of teaching establishments are now recognising the importance of EQ. My personal experience of high schooling in Scotland, is that, on reaching the age of 16, unless you were destined for further education, in the form of college or university, then the school was no longer interested in you. This seems to be changing, with my daughters school, adopting an outcome of 100% school leavers either going to FE, work experience, apprenticeship, job, etc. This is a very high goal to set, but is achievable through positive affirmations.

DawnCRitchie Sun, Feb 23rd 2014 @ 11:26am

Hmm, I picked up from Les' blog that he would encourage everyone to be kind rather than selfish. The world generally is a selfish one; something I'm unfortunately learning at the age of 48! Thanks for your blog Les, I feel that's a general view of how it works or seen to work.
High IQ certainly enables the selfish in this world to come out on top, with huge salaries (really not the most important thing to aim for- when I was married, the happiest we were is when we were the poorest because we spent time together). I have an IQ of 123 (self done from a book), but I certainly don't feel comfortable in this world. I am blessed both academically and creatively and I don't have any desire to be in charge of anyone else. I'm told that I also have a high EQ. I am very caring of others, putting others first.
My most important values are to be kind and honest and I want everyone to do what they're supposed to do.
I feel that this blog so far has proved just how complex and very diverse human beings are.

Lostinspace Sun, Feb 23rd 2014 @ 3:00pm

After reading the comments I have changed my first sentence from surprise at the Scottish Educational system to Poor Les! Perhaps this subject is just too big to be encapsulated in one blog? Looks to me like that old problem of balance - surely we need a mix of both components, no idea what the healthy ratio would be but I expect the successful people that I admire have probably got it. Recently on the radio I heard a woman suggesting that children of 8 years old and onwards should be taught philosophy in school. She was herself an eminent philosopher and in charge of promoting philosophy in Education (I think, my memory is hazy on the details but latched on to philosophy in schools like a starving mouse onto cheese).

tylerchill Sun, Feb 23rd 2014 @ 4:45pm

Scotland's schools seem very much liking working class NYC where I grew up. Any semblance of individuality or compassion is beaten out of you for your own good. You are raised to be a "tool."

I have a high IQ that was definitely offset by a low EQ. I can tell you from hard experience EQ is much more important. Even if it's to accept your limitations and create happiness from where you stand.

Our schools, and it sounds like Scotland's, were designed during the industrial revolution to create factory drones. Academia is clueless in how to create full adults from children who can find their place in the 21st century. They draw their subjects from upper class like it was the 19th century.

I like the theory of multiple intelligences of which logic and emotions are just two. Athletic, music, visual, language, math, emotional, logic are some that I remember. Evaluating children, as they grow, by this perspective creates a richer picture of where they may fit in society. And we all fit somewhere.

Anonymous Sun, Feb 23rd 2014 @ 5:28pm

What is this nonsense? "Newtonian cognitive 'schooling'"?
Have a look at your editorial standards, Moodscope.

The Entertrainer Sun, Feb 23rd 2014 @ 7:38pm

Dear Les
I enjoyed your post as always.
The Moodscope blog for me is a short thought-provoking interlude in my day.
Sometimes it's a welcome pattern-interrupt to the spiral slide I can so easily slip down using my high IQ as the mat to ride on. It can catch me and change the day.
My thoughts are often not my best friends and can be lousy companions. They certainly are critics without a shred of EQ.

I purchased, years ago, "YesMan" - starring Jim Carey. I'm not often in the mood for Jim's wacky style, but I lacked something to watch and there was a glimmer of a promise of time well spent in the marketing paragraph. So after years of hesitation, I watched it.

I was so pleasantly surprised. The story is of a man with at least a damaged EQ, if not a low one. His journey to saying "Yes!" to more of life's experiences is not a straightforward one but it is, ultimately, a rewarding one. On the way he discovers what so many of us come to understand: relationships, spontaneity and empathy pay far higher dividends than shares in the bank.

I almost didn't write anything today because of the tone of some of the responses you've had, Les. But it's hard for me to be quiet! All I want from the Moodscope blog is a small "yes!" when so much in my life shouts a deafening "NO!" You delivered that for me today - and all your blogs do - so, "Thank You!"

Perhaps the community of Moodscopes should spend some time defining what we want from the blog? I suspect most writers contribute for free - a psychiatrist's site is the place for moderated science. This blog, for me, needs to be accessible and relatively simple.

Anonymous Sun, Feb 23rd 2014 @ 8:08pm

- which this is not.

Anonymous Sun, Feb 23rd 2014 @ 8:38pm

The IQ test is not used in any official capacity anywhere as far as I know. Schools don't assess and use an IQ score so they? And I've never heard of anyone being asked their IQ when going for a job - ever. So I'm not sure you are correct about your claim that the IQ test dominates our lives.

Along with your comment linking high IQ people with selfish greed you do create the impression that you have something against people with a high IQ, and it does sound a little unfair. Maybe this wasn't your intention and it isn't how you feel.

But I do totally agree that emotional intelligence is also important. Treating other people well is hugely important, and people with a high IQ are just as capable as anyone else of doing this.

Anonymous Mon, Feb 24th 2014 @ 8:56am

I appreciate the variety of opinions that are channeled through Moodscope but I would similarly to others urge Moodscope to more greatly moderate its choice of blogs. I usually enjoy the morning post, but upon reading this today I felt more distressed and sad: while there were a few good points here, a lot of what was said was dogmatic, unbalanced, and unnecessarily vicious.

Julia Mon, Feb 24th 2014 @ 1:15pm

From what I have read of Les' bogs in the past year, he is one of the kindest, balanced and honest writers on Moodscope.
Why don't you try your hand Anon and all those who criticise, at writing a blog. You can write as Anon.

Caroline Ashcroft Tue, Feb 25th 2014 @ 11:42pm

Hi all, I have to agree with Julia regarding Les and his blogs. Les definitely didn't intend to offend anyone and I'm sorry if you feel he has. His intention is to help people and I think this blog was focussing on the importance of compassion, the benefits to you and the people around you and that it should be more recognised.

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