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Good morning Moodscopers. I have been taking the antidepressant Sertraline for a few weeks now and I am pleased with how well it has worked for me. I go to sleep with a smile on my face and wake up with a lightness and energy that I haven't felt in a while.

I feel like I'm getting more done, but another good thing is that I feel more conversational. I'm not sure if I'm a bit of an introvert, I do find it hard to start a conversation, but can talk a lot when someone engages with me.

One of the things I love about the Moodscope comments is that they inspire conversation. Those of us who have been members for a while and have come to know some of the regular names, have mini conversations within the comments. People always offer love and support when one of us comments about feeling low.

Another way of sitting in on a lively or interesting conversation is to catch some of the programmes they have on BBC radio 4 in the UK. It was while listening to Midweek with Libby Purves, many years ago now, that I first heard about Moodscope. Jon Cousins was on the programme and it sounded like just what I needed. Libby would have three or four guests who sat around a table and chatted about their field of work, but also life, the universe and everything. I loved it.

Saturday live, with Rev Richard Coles, is also a round table chat and is often amusing too. Chain Reaction was another fascinating programme, where the previous week's interviewee became the next interviewer of someone they admired.

I don't actually listen to the radio all that much, but when I catch a snippet of something while driving, I can listen again on my iPad.

Only recently I met up with a group of people that I don't know all that well, but I felt included and enjoyed my afternoon immensely. Sometimes I see two or three people deep in conversation, but don't feel I can join in. However, with my improved mood, I am trying more to participate and not feel that I am not worthy.

Let's see if you can strike up a conversation today, and if you cannot get out perhaps you can catch something interesting on the radio.

Wishing you all the best.

Another Sally xx

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Molly

Nov. 15, 2019, 2:32 a.m.

Thank you for the tips Another Sally. I love the radio and just do not listen to it enough even though it’s so Accessible on the IPad and I have a couple of friends who are DJs and give me a mention if I ask nicely. My evening however consisted of husband having another fall, he couldn’t get up. So I had to ring for help. For all my moans about the NHS, within minutes we had paramedics here. Three of them. Such nice people (not always my experience with paramedics) perhaps it wasn’t a busy evening for them, but they got husband off the floor. Tested everything. Chatted to us about general stuff. They were in no hurry they said, whilst the ambulance was blocking the road. Wonderful service. Got him to bed and now realise I have not eaten. I don’t eat much anyway, But I am thinking a little something, better than nothing and maybe a little radio. If you ever need a conversation, dial 111, the paramedics are great for it!! Molly xx

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Ach UK

Nov. 15, 2019, 9:44 a.m.

Hi Molly, I sent you a little reply with hugs and hoping you got sleep. But the " Parrot - Moodscope Glitch" ate it. So, hugs anyway . .XX Ach.

Valerie

Nov. 15, 2019, 10:05 a.m.

Morning Molly,I can highly recommend Radio 4 as a background while you do things,or just lie down.Like Another Sally,that was how I heard of Moodscope.There have been a lot of things about mental illness lately.The Saturday programme Sally mentions has some lovely guests,and listeners anecdotes. What a horrible shock for you last night.*** knows how you keep going.If you rarely eat you must be feeling weak,while trying to lift your husband. Fingers crossed,hope not to need paramedics any time soon,but both occasions,when Spock had bad injuries from a dog attack,and when I fell downstairs,they were so quick to arrive and really kind.***

Lexi

Nov. 15, 2019, 1:01 p.m.

Molly hope you and your husband are feeling a bit better today. That was quite a shock. Hugs xo

The Gardener

Nov. 15, 2019, 2:14 p.m.

Molly, this happened a few times with Mr G. Neighbours helped a couple of times. Then the morning nurses forbade me absolutely to try and life him myself (or with neighbours, it was implied). Call the professionals, too much risk of damage.

Molly

Nov. 15, 2019, 3:59 p.m.

Thank you Ach. The parrot put my comment up five times, I was horrified! :-) hugs back to you xx

Molly

Nov. 15, 2019, 4:15 p.m.

Thank you Val, I will give Radio 4 a listen. I’ve had good and bad experiences with paramedics. So glad they didn’t have to take him to A&E, as I don’t think I could have gone with him. Oh well we plod on ***

Molly

Nov. 15, 2019, 4:43 p.m.

Thank you Lexi and Gardener. It has happened several times before. The worse thing is I’m continually on edge every time he moves and he’s getting worse. We are both thoroughly fed up! He usually manages to get himself up with little help from me but when I tried to help him last night he started shouting his head off at me.....anyway no damage done, just a cut on his leg xx xx

Molly

Nov. 15, 2019, 4:46 p.m.

Another Sally, I meant to say, I’m pleased the medication is working for you, that’s great news xx

Another Sally

Nov. 15, 2019, 7:54 p.m.

Hi Molly, I hope things improve for you. I'm sorry you have such a difficult time. It has been good for me to see some improvement in my mood. I do feel that life is moving on a more even keel. Take care of yourself dear Molly. xx

Molly

Nov. 15, 2019, 10:46 p.m.

Thanks Sally xx

Melissa

Nov. 15, 2019, 5:48 a.m.

Hello Sally, I’m so happy to hear that you’re feeling a bit lighter and more inclined to be conversational. This is a nice phenomenon known as “adaptive spiral” where good things just start building on each other. And it begets more good things! For me so much of my lasting recovery with depression (a challenging condition for 35 years) my best results have come through getting “knitted in” to a loving community, and working on my assertiveness skills and pursuing my own dreams. I wish you all the very best, from sunny Southern California! ?

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Liz

Nov. 15, 2019, 9:07 a.m.

Hi Melissa I love the idea of the adaptive spiral... like a whirling thing of goodness and positivity. Thank you for introducing me to this. Not heard it before x

Another Sally

Nov. 15, 2019, 8:01 p.m.

Hi Melissa, I like the idea of an adaptive spiral. I can see how it works, but I get nervous because I have got back on my feet before and then the rug gets pulled out again. Thank you for sending Californian sun to us in the rainy uk. AS x

Sally

Nov. 15, 2019, 5:51 a.m.

Another Sally, good morning! Your words could not ring more true! As a chatterbox, I enjoy conversation very much, as well as learning what people like, think, are all about. Waiting for a small surgical op yesterday in hospital, I struck up a conversation in the waiting area ( there were 5 hours to kill!) with other patients, all friendly, one so open I was soon being treated to photos of her family, holidays and friends on her phone! It made the waiting time go faster, especially as I had not got any lunch with me! I was struck by how much we all had in common, being on the surface so different. For a start, we were all “having something done” I am so glad the Sertraline is working, Another Sally. It’s amazing , isn’t it, when the mood lightens?! I hope you continue to get benefit and strike up interesting conversations. I love Radio 4 . It has been important to me, a loyal companion, since having to spend lots of time at home in the 80s. I also love Saturday Live, and a programme where two artists or writers meet and talk about their respective work. A lovely blog. Thank you.

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Another Sally

Nov. 15, 2019, 8:09 p.m.

Hi fellow namesake, I hope your minor op went ok. Great that you had people to chat to. Yes, it is good when the mood lifts, so I'm glad I went on the Sertraline. Keep well Sally. AS x

Ach UK

Nov. 15, 2019, 6:04 a.m.

@ Moodscope. The record's stuck. Decapitate the parrot. I'll call back later. XX Ach.

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Another Sally

Nov. 15, 2019, 8:10 p.m.

Poor parrot :-( Hi Ach x

Leila

Nov. 15, 2019, 7:28 a.m.

Another Sally, I am so pleased that your mood is lightening. I take a small cocktail of medications and am still very unsure about whether they actually make a difference but it’d be brave to try and do without and see actually how I felt then... Radio 4 has a funny place for me, as my Dad, who passed away 10years ago today coincidentally, had radio 4 on in the background almost all day. He had a sawmill but would be in and out the kitchen all day. So as kids if we were at his place we would always have it on as a background. I always remember the little snippets my brother picked up as a consequence. Even as a 4 year old. Now I don’t listen as much. Not sure if it’s because I don’t have a digital radio anymore - no excuse as one can get things in your phone or smart TV. But I have since not having great concentration managed to start listening to Podcasts a lot more. There are loads to choose from. Many are out there for free. And it means you can be selective. I am a big desert island discs fan. And also discovered something called Late Night Women’s hour. Anyhow I digress. Another Sally thank you for your post and thank you for showing your lighter days and Molly I hope your husband is okay and a good sleep helped with his trauma last night. Thank the rest of you, thanks for being a a place I can turn to today 10years on. He isn’t forgotten but 10years later a lot of people‘a lives have moved Onwards understandably. But we will have a small gathering on Sunday which happens to be my birthday - these things all come together right? Thanks Moodscopers for being so open x

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Lexi

Nov. 15, 2019, 1:03 p.m.

Happy early birthday Leila!

Molly

Nov. 15, 2019, 4:51 p.m.

Thank you dear Leila, and I hope you have a lovely birthday xx

Another Sally

Nov. 15, 2019, 8:13 p.m.

Have a lovely birthday on Sunday Leila. Thank you for your comment.. AS x

Ach UK

Nov. 16, 2019, 2:12 a.m.

Happy Birthday on Sunday Leila.. Hope your family gathering is full of loving support and fun. Do you have a birthday cake?

Mary Wednesday

Nov. 15, 2019, 7:32 a.m.

Lovely blog, today. When I'm "up" I have no problem at all with instigating/joining conversations. When "down", as I am right now (despite the meds, which have just been tweaked, by my GP. I walked in, she said, "How are you?" and I burst into tears!) I just want to hide away. I don't want to talk to anyone but very close friends, and then cannot cope with anything but a one on one conversation. And, that is fine by me. It's just annoying when people who dont understand bipolar, insist on giving me advice which might be good advice from their own experience, but which does not apply to my condition. I feel like telling them, "Look - I've lived with this for 50 years! I'm a past master at getting through it! Do you really think you can apply your experience of something totally different to what I have?" But that would be mean, so I don't say it.

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Valerie

Nov. 15, 2019, 2:03 p.m.

Sending hugs.***

Molly

Nov. 15, 2019, 4:58 p.m.

Mary, I’m with you on this one, all the advice you get from people who don’t understand. As for the GP, the amount of times I have done that, broken down before I can even speak, have you noticed the first thing they do is pass you a tissue! Hope you feel better soon xx

Another Sally

Nov. 15, 2019, 8:25 p.m.

Hi Mary, I'm sorry to hear that you have been down. I hope the medication tweak works well for you. The day I went to try and book an appointment with my doctor to get put on antidepressants, they tried to tell me that the appt would be in 2 weeks. I just crumpled to the floor sobbing - that helped, they got me in that afternoon. Take care. Love AS x

Jul

Nov. 16, 2019, 9:09 a.m.

Hi Mary. I am sorry to hear you are down right now. But you will bounce back. But not nice for you I understand and empathise. I'm not good either. Love Jul xx

Jul

Nov. 15, 2019, 9:11 a.m.

Dear another Sally. This is great news. I am so happy for you that this anti depressant is helping. It's obviously exactly what you needed. I expect you wished you tried it months ago. From what you say, it's helped you massively to engage with people and enhance your day to day life. I'm not on an antidepressant right now and am finding things difficult . However your advice to get out and talk to people for me does have a positive snowball effect despite it being a real effort to do this. Thank you for writing today. Jul ***

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Another Sally

Nov. 15, 2019, 8:28 p.m.

Hi Jul, thanks for writing. Yes, it can be an effort, but once you start it gets easier. AS x

Caroline Ashcroft Moodscope

Nov. 15, 2019, 9:16 a.m.

Hi all, this is a test message - trying to catch the parrot!!

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Caroline Ashcroft Moodscope

Nov. 15, 2019, 9:17 a.m.

Another test message, sorry!

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Jul

Nov. 15, 2019, 9:21 a.m.

Dear another Sally. This is great news. I am so happy for you that this anti depressant is helping. It's obviously exactly what you needed. I expect you wished you tried it months ago. From what you say, it's helped you massively to engage with people and enhance your day to day life. I'm not on an antidepressant right now and am finding things difficult . However your advice to get out and talk to people for me does have a positive snowball effect despite it being a real effort to do this. Thank you for writing today. Jul ***

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Caroline Ashcroft Moodscope

Nov. 15, 2019, 9:21 a.m.

There seems to be a bug currently when posting comments. The site will tell you there's an error and you would assume from this your comment hasn't been posted - but it has, so please just ignore the error message for the moment. Programmers are on to it!

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Another Sally

Nov. 15, 2019, 8:32 p.m.

Bugs and parrots, we have had quite a wildlife day today. Thank you Caroline for wrangling the parrot. Good work. Greetings from AS x

Ach UK

Nov. 16, 2019, 2:28 a.m.

@Another Sally . . :-))) you are lovely--- kinder than me to the parrot -- Wrangling not Strangling lol. I took a copy of the multiplying threads cos I got worried it was only me hallucinating the page . @ Caroline Thank you for prompt interventions Caroline. XX Ach.

Molly

Nov. 16, 2019, 5:03 p.m.

I was copying too Ach UK, the parrot is back today though!! Xx

Liz

Nov. 15, 2019, 9:22 a.m.

Hi Another Sally, you've reminded me to re-start my medication although I am never sure whether it really works. I take (or rather I forget to take) Citalopram 20 mg but when my legs start feeling wobbly I know it's been too long... like I am walking on moon boots. Radio 4 is great but I find myself shouting at the radio in the car because the Today morning programme is often about politics and if I disagree, then the car knows about it!! It just happens to co-incide with my trip to work. I've started getting into the Archers and when I am at this work (caring) I often put on the Sunday podcast to listen to while I cook. As regards chatting, I think it depends on the company and my mood. I've had a bit of social anxiety with the menopause - something I never really suffered from. However, strangely in work I wasn't ever that confident but out of work I was. I just have to make more of an effort sometimes with conversation depending on the situation. I think when I'm down I avoid social situations. What I think is lovely about Moodscope is all the little conversations in between that occur after a blog. I'm trying to type this at the moment with a very cuddly sleepy Patterdale terrier who is now to my left so perhaps he's saying stop mummy. I want some attention! x

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Another Sally

Nov. 15, 2019, 8:44 p.m.

Hi Liz, I am trying to write my replies sitting on my sofa, watching Children in Need at the same time. I have a cat on my lap, squished next to me is my border terrier. He is curled up next to my granddaughter (it's time for bed really) and at the other end us hubby with the other cat. All pets sparko. It is very snuggly. :-) If you are not sure if the citalopram works, have you discussed trying something else with your GP? When I was on Citalopram a few years ago, I found that life felt stodgy -not the right word, I can't think of a good one. I am glad my doctor suggested something different. AS x

The Gardener

Nov. 15, 2019, 9:56 p.m.

AS, that sounds lovely. I have just seen an incredible film, but have come home raging because there should have been a 'discussion' afterwards but we got a party political speech. x

Jul

Nov. 15, 2019, 9:35 a.m.

Dear another Sally. This is great news. I am so happy for you that this anti depressant is helping. It's obviously exactly what you needed. I expect you wished you tried it months ago. From what you say, it's helped you massively to engage with people and enhance your day to day life. I'm not on an antidepressant right now and am finding things difficult . However your advice to get out and talk to people for me does have a positive snowball effect despite it being a real effort to do this. Thank you for writing today. Jul ***

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Ach UK

Nov. 16, 2019, 3:41 a.m.

Take care Jul, XX Ach.

Ach UK

Nov. 16, 2019, 3:41 a.m.

Take care Jul, XX Ach.

Ach UK

Nov. 15, 2019, 9:36 a.m.

Thank you for your blog Another Sally, I like to tune in to radio and find BBC radio Four with its eclectic mix of programmes comfort, informative and fun -- a good companion which I can tolerate unless exceptionally poorly. I think the Moodscope blogs are often like listening to " Thought for the day ". It's good to read you are feeling a bit brighter. Glad you enjoyed your group afternoon. XX Ach.

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Another Sally

Nov. 15, 2019, 8:52 p.m.

It was a lovely afternoon and the conversation flowed well. I would be happy to see those friends again. It makes such a difference being on the meds and feeling more confident. I think you are right, the Moodscope blogs are a little like Thought for the day. Thank you for your comment Ach. Good to hear from you.. AS x

Ach UK

Nov. 16, 2019, 3:01 a.m.

A.S. Thank you. -- Friends who understand make the unbearable bearable. X Ach. Take care.

Orangeblossom

Nov. 15, 2019, 9:36 a.m.

Hi another Sally, Thanks for your uplifting blog. Made me feel loads better.

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Another Sally

Nov. 15, 2019, 8:54 p.m.

Hi OB, I'm so glad it made you feel better :-) All these kind comments have uplifted me. AS x

Lesley

Nov. 15, 2019, 10:08 a.m.

Dear Sally, how lovely to hear you are doing well. I am a big fan of radio 4, especially the plays, Thought for the Day and conversations and the comedy. I was on Sertraline for a while but it seemed to make me lose weight, (too thin), lose interest in food and I had no feelings at all - a bland state of mind. Melissa's adaptive spiral is a useful label to have for a concept I realise works for me. I am a natural conversationalist. My mood and wellbeing improve when I surround myself with people on similar wavelength which for me is non-professional theatre. The sheer positive energy and love there fills me up with happiness. At present I am rehearsing for an adult choir to support a youth theatre nativity, working on choreography ( a first for me) for A Christmas Carol and have two auditions for plays for women directed by women. Do what you love and surround yourself with people of the right energy. Strike up conversations when you feel like it. I am from Scotland and in my local town it is natural to strike up conversations. I know that some Southern English people where I live think I am a bit odd when I start speaking to people I do not know or them! L

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Another Sally

Nov. 15, 2019, 9:04 p.m.

Hello Lesley, thank you for writing, and for giving me the answer to a comment above, when I was on Citalopram, my life ended up feeling bland. This time, so far so good. Fingers crossed. Your life sounds busy and I wish you every success. 'Do what you love' is a good way of thinking. I am trying to do that more in my life. Thanks. AS x

Valerie

Nov. 15, 2019, 10:13 a.m.

Hi Another Sally, I heard the same programme ,which got me onto Moodscope.What a lucky day that was! I was devoted to the Saturday morning John Peel programme for years,and when he died I doubted if I would still follow it.Fi Glover was O.K.but I much prefer the current line-up. What great news about your meds.I caught a ****** of something-Radio 4 of course-a social psychologist said the tiniest bits of conversation all add up.As someone who does very little socialising in the accepted sense,this was good news.***

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Another Sally

Nov. 15, 2019, 9:08 p.m.

Hello Valerie. Yes, a good day when we discovered Moodscope. I liked the John Peel programme, but did not often get to hear all of it. AS x

Colette

Nov. 15, 2019, 10:38 a.m.

Hello Another Sally. It seems we have lives running in parallel! I also heard about Moodscope on that same radio 4 program, I also only catch snippets of interesting programs while driving to/work. Also usually feel not worthy of inclusion in discussions. I recently just realised that I apparently suffer from Imposter Syndrome where you always feel like you’re going to be found out as being not good enough! Check it out online, very interesting reading. So...now that I’m aware of it, I can do something about it. It seems a common thing and a lot of people suffer from it, perhaps you can relate too? I’m very pleased for you that the Sertraline is helping, sounds like it’s already making an improvement in your life. I too am on medication, Venlafaxine in my case, I know it helps me, although my spells of depression do still happen, they’re far less intense than they would be without the med. They do help, despite what the many nay-sayers think. They help, they don’t fix! That’s up to us to work through personally. Thanks for sharing! Love, Colette ***

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Colette

Nov. 15, 2019, 10:39 a.m.

Hello Another Sally. It seems we have lives running in parallel! I also heard about Moodscope on that same radio 4 program, I also only catch snippets of interesting programs while driving to/work. Also usually feel not worthy of inclusion in discussions. I recently just realised that I apparently suffer from Imposter Syndrome where you always feel like you’re going to be found out as being not good enough! Check it out online, very interesting reading. So...now that I’m aware of it, I can do something about it. It seems a common thing and a lot of people suffer from it, perhaps you can relate too? I’m very pleased for you that the Sertraline is helping, sounds like it’s already making an improvement in your life. I too am on medication, Venlafaxine in my case, I know it helps me, although my spells of depression do still happen, they’re far less intense than they would be without the med. They do help, despite what the many nay-sayers think. They help, they don’t fix! That’s up to us to work through personally. Thanks for sharing! Love, Colette ***

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Another Sally

Nov. 15, 2019, 9:25 p.m.

Hi Colette, that is a very good comment, 'they help they don't fix, that's up to us'. I will try to remember to look up the Imposter Syndrome. Thanks for the recommendation. AS x

Another Sally

Nov. 15, 2019, 11:35 a.m.

Hello everyone, thank you for your comments. I will get back to them later today and reply to personal comments. I've got a head cold right now, and my brain is a bit sluggish. :-( AS. xx

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Colette

Nov. 15, 2019, 12:12 p.m.

Ah no! Hope you feel better soon!

Lexi

Nov. 15, 2019, 1:08 p.m.

Hello Another Sally, so glad to hear you are feeling good on your medication! I describe myself as an extroverted introvert. I can talk to anyone but the days I want to be left alone I talk to no one. Hide in my bedroom with the phone on vibrate. There is usually nothing "wrong"; I just need to be 100% alone to recharge my batteries! xo

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Valerie

Nov. 15, 2019, 2:06 p.m.

That's me too Lexi,everyone thinks I am very sociable,and at times indeed I am.xx

Brum Mum

Nov. 15, 2019, 1:54 p.m.

Dear Another Sally I am glad that you are finding yourself able to enjoy and participate in conversations. At the moment I feel that I have nothing to say. It’s the depression impacting on me. But Radio 4 is keeping me company and is a godsend. I managed to make it to my pottery class today which at least surrounded me with other people’s cheerful chatter which is some comfort.

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Ach UK

Nov. 16, 2019, 3:08 a.m.

Out here in the night. Taking comfort from Moodscope. Send supportive thoughts to you. XX Ach.

Valerie

Nov. 15, 2019, 2:07 p.m.

You have had a hard year Brum Mum,look after yourself.It will get better.xx

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The Gardener

Nov. 15, 2019, 2:19 p.m.

Hello AS, seems a Radio 4 fan club on here. It is SO varied, and I do my best to keep up to date with French and English, TRY and remain impartial. Conversation, an absolute drug with me. My 'talking shop' is not working. Psychological? Very odd. People will talk for hours in the road, ask them in, and they are too 'busy'. Seem to need an invite. I shall persevere. Summer is fine, people sit on the pavement (I put out chairs) if there is a crowd, chairs are fetched from the shop. Cont

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Molly

Nov. 15, 2019, 11:31 p.m.

Hi Gardener. I think people don’t want to ‘commit’ because with a chat in the road they can go on their merry way as and when it suits. Or perhaps it’s the unknown! I guess winter halts a lot of things while people stay at home in the warm. Hopefully things will improve in the Spring xx

The Gardener

Nov. 15, 2019, 2:24 p.m.

This weather and short days one NEEDS companionship - I've started Future Learn, don't 'talk' to people but it does have a discussion element. I find clothes (sounds stupid) an impediment to going out. There is a trial group of Yoga for the elderly - I was going to join, no way I could do it. Once all clothes got on this morning no way want to part with them till bed and bedroom warmed and ready. But my shop is bright with new lights and heating, people say it is cheering and nice ambience. If only they'd come! Don't have to buy anything! Thanks AS xx

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Hugo

Nov. 15, 2019, 3:24 p.m.

Great to hear things are going well for you :-) it’s a success story! I’m sure and hope all of us will get there.

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Oli

Nov. 15, 2019, 5:30 p.m.

Thanks for the blog Sally. The way I notice I do conversations often indicates where I am mentally. Also this tends to be how I think of the Moodscope test cards which ask how attentive and how interested I feel. At the moment my attentiveness is low. I've just done some focusing exercises to try to get it higher but nothing doing. Plan B: run a bath and relax, then do gig.

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Melissa

Nov. 15, 2019, 5:34 p.m.

Hello Sally, I’m so happy to hear that you’re feeling a bit lighter and more inclined to be conversational. This is a nice phenomenon known as “adaptive spiral” where good things just start building on each other. And it begets more good things! For me so much of my lasting recovery with depression (a challenging condition for 35 years) my best results have come through getting “knitted in” to a loving community, and working on my assertiveness skills and pursuing my own dreams. I wish you all the very best, from sunny Southern California! ?

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Leah

Nov. 15, 2019, 8:45 p.m.

Ankther Sally, It was so lovely to read your blog and to read aboutnhow conversation has helped you. take care. Leah

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The Gardener

Nov. 15, 2019, 10:02 p.m.

Film, above - superb, touching, about the high level of suicide in the farming population. Family went from success (true story), over-investment, to farmer nervous, bad decisions, nervous breakdown and suicide. I was hoping the advertised discussion afterwards would home in on available help in the community, the state , and we got an aggressive politician ranting on about the wickedness of governments and globalisation. We know all that, we want to know about help when things go wrong. So, writing this steaming. Sorry AS

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The Gardener

Nov. 15, 2019, 10:06 p.m.

It does touch very much on the blog, conversation, exchange of ideas, dialogue - the subject could have provoked a wealth of feeling, perhaps how people have survived like situations. One person managed to ask a question, but it was not answered, just ranting. Sitting here with a glass of wine, because I do not want to go to bed cross, having trouble sleeping as it is. Actually I can catch a bit of Children in Need, to see what charity is about.

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Molly

Nov. 16, 2019, 2:17 a.m.

It’s about children in need Gardener ! Those that have illnesses or less privileged lives. I’m always a bit sceptical about where all the money goes but the stories are sad and the entertainment is good. Personally I wouldn’t donate because they get enough support so I would rather put my tenner (if I had one) somewhere else, to the smaller charities that don’t get so much recognition.

Suzy

Nov. 16, 2019, 6:26 a.m.

I LOVE bbc radio 4. It’s my constant companion. I totally agree too that a depression makes chit chat and small talk and the desire to meet up with friends feel like a mountain to climb. In fact one of the ways I know I’m emerging from a bad depression (as I currently am) is how I suddenly find myself engaging with people a bit more. I’m an introvert at my core though. And that’s ok. :)

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Another Sally

Nov. 16, 2019, 4:08 p.m.

Hello everyone, I'm very sorry, I wanted to write individual comments to everyone, but I have a head cold and am going to treat myself to a nap, while hubby watches rugby. I am sitting in the pet sandwich again, minus granddaughter, who has gone home. Waves and hugs to all. AS x

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Molly

Nov. 16, 2019, 5:11 p.m.

Pet sandwich!! How lovely, I’m not envious at all!! Hope you feel better soon Another Sally. Keep warm xx

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